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skaladom's avatar

I agree, the starting point of all kinds of spiritual wondering or wandering has to be distinguishing ordinary experience from transformative experience, automatic conditioned fearful responses from spontaneous creativity, matter from spirit.

But many spiritual traditions go beyond that distinction, and insist that a deeper unity underlies both. That Prakṛti is the self-effulgence or vibration of Puruṣa, or however you want to put it. Zen also insists that there is no nirvana outside of samsara — the same affirmation in different words.

Should we understand your post as a rejection of spiritual non-duality, and affirming an ultimate duality, in the vein of Manichaeism? Or are you just putting the focus on the initial, necessary stage of pointing out the difference?

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claraschelling's avatar

None of this is wrong but the moral impasse points to a greater truth, which is that the Mind created matter to create minds and that - the synchronization of minds being precisely what 'morality', in its broadest sense, is - identifying with the Mind outside of synchronizing minds is fruitless and will ultimately just end up desynchronizing you from any community and into solipsism.

Still, the Mind is very real and wants us to know It. It simply wants us to know each other too and that's only possible through embodiment. There must then be a truth that's only accessible through being embodied that nonetheless points to the Mind.

I'd argue that this truth is Christ. Though I dare wouldn't say 'Christianity'.

For what is Christ? Christ is the Word, which must mean he is the self-same synchronistic principle that, as surely as it lifted us above the animals through eons of hard-won agreement on the meaning of grunts, organized matter into life through the code of DNA and, before that, bound unbound particles into the nucleic structure of atoms. Christ is simply that which unifies the many into a one that only exists as and by the agreement of the many.

The crucifixion here is then what happens as any 'one' empties itself into serving the many through serving a higher one. The resurrection then being to experience oneself as that higher one - our cells, for instance, are us and live as us no matter whether any arbitrary individual cell dies, just as atoms 'live' as the objects they make up until the complete destruction of the object, and even then the ultimate object atoms make up is the universe.

Eternal life on this picture is what happens when one has so thoroughly subjugated one's individuality to the synchronistic principle that one literally is the Mind as all- minds-relating-to-each-other, as accomplished by relating to Christ as he who gave himself for all others and whose experience of the world, as the experience of perfect goodness encountering a therefore necessarily unjust evil, exhausts all possible experience.

And the Second Coming of Christ is when all minds realize these truths concretely in the world and collectively give birth to the Mind that can only ever be imagined to have birthed them.

God - as the Mind, as the outside cause of existence - does not exist except as the fiction which makes us real, just as we are the fiction that makes God real, to end with the Ouroboros as you did.

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