In the sense of testing for the presence of outside influences — I.e., non-material sources of consciousness. Loss of consciousness when we sleep seems analogous to shielding the radio from reception by standing in a cave. In both cases, the technology fails and we have to explain why in order to have a really comprehensive theory.
In the sense of testing for the presence of outside influences — I.e., non-material sources of consciousness. Loss of consciousness when we sleep seems analogous to shielding the radio from reception by standing in a cave. In both cases, the technology fails and we have to explain why in order to have a really comprehensive theory.
Maybe I’m pushing too hard on the metaphor, though. I read it as saying that the brain is like the radio and a materialist viewpoint is like the Kalahari person who can’t conceive that it’s picking up a signal from far away. It could be that I’ve missed its point.
No I think that makes sense. I thought you were saying something you could do internally to your own mind. I do believe that exogenous entities, ideas, whatever can enter your consciousness and you might subjective feel that to be the case, but I'm not sure if you could ever scientifically prove that (and I also believe you can be delusional and mistaken about this).
In brief, people have done these experiments where they put a number or some other sign somewhere at the top of a hospital room in case someone having an NDE/OBE can see it and thus confirm their consciousness has left their body, however these have not been successful. The Phantom World Hypothesis suggests you can only see/know things in NDE/OBE that have been experienced before by at least one person before, so the reason these experiments haven't been successful so far is because they are double blind and the experimenters also do not know the number.
Would beliefs without proof work to some degree? One might say "Oh, that's just people", but what if that isn't true (how could one prove it, after all?)?
In the sense of testing for the presence of outside influences — I.e., non-material sources of consciousness. Loss of consciousness when we sleep seems analogous to shielding the radio from reception by standing in a cave. In both cases, the technology fails and we have to explain why in order to have a really comprehensive theory.
Maybe I’m pushing too hard on the metaphor, though. I read it as saying that the brain is like the radio and a materialist viewpoint is like the Kalahari person who can’t conceive that it’s picking up a signal from far away. It could be that I’ve missed its point.
No I think that makes sense. I thought you were saying something you could do internally to your own mind. I do believe that exogenous entities, ideas, whatever can enter your consciousness and you might subjective feel that to be the case, but I'm not sure if you could ever scientifically prove that (and I also believe you can be delusional and mistaken about this).
This suggests an example, I think.
https://www.bernardokastrup.com/2024/02/the-phantom-world-hypothesis-of-ndesobes.html
In brief, people have done these experiments where they put a number or some other sign somewhere at the top of a hospital room in case someone having an NDE/OBE can see it and thus confirm their consciousness has left their body, however these have not been successful. The Phantom World Hypothesis suggests you can only see/know things in NDE/OBE that have been experienced before by at least one person before, so the reason these experiments haven't been successful so far is because they are double blind and the experimenters also do not know the number.
Would beliefs without proof work to some degree? One might say "Oh, that's just people", but what if that isn't true (how could one prove it, after all?)?